Posted by Dr Fro 4:58 PM
What a great hand to stimulate discussion....

I focused on whether or not Hero was correct to bet all in with the flush, which was his question. At that point in time, it was the right move, even though it lost. However, what I did not address is if the hand was played properly on each of the three previous streets. Morris starts to hit on this in the comments below (which maxed out on space) and finished his though in the email below:


From: Chris
To: Dr. Fro

Craig,

This is a very interesting hand you posted about on the site. I was curious as to what you thoughts were on the hand, from both players' perspective. I think that they both misplayed the hand, although the outcome may have been exactly the same, except they would have both been watching 4th and 5th streets with the hands turned up. Here's what I mean.

I'm assuming there was no raise before the flop. After the flop, I think hero should have done more than make a "modest bet." I know I would have bet very big with top pair, top kicker, top draw. (From my experience playing with you, I think you would make a sizeable bet as well.) I would even be willing to risk my entire tournament by moving all in. (note that I said moving all in, I would have to ponder very hard about calling all in)

Now assume you are Mr. Suited Connecter. If he puts Hero on top pair and an over card, he has to calculate that he has 15 outs twice. In other words, the favorite to win the hand. (never mind that he would have been overestimating his outs, I think most players in that spot would think 15 outs was right.) I could also justify moving all in with this hand after the flop, in fact, I would call an all in with this hand faster than I would with Hero's. I can see Mr. Suited Connectors strategy though, see 4th street cheaply, try to make your hand and then move in, but that’s not my style. I'd rather make the other guy decide how much he likes his hand than the other way around.

My point being, I'm surprised they both didn't try to win the hand immediately after the flop. I think any combinations of events is very reasonable. I could see Hero moving in after the flop and getting called, I could see him moving all in and Suited Connector folding, I could see Hero betting and Suited Connector coming over the top and getting a fold or a call as well. Furthermore, I think Hero made a HUGE mistake by not applying the heat after a blank on 4th street. If I am Mr.. Suited Connector and I missed on the turn, I am no longer the favorite and would have a difficult time calling a large bet with 6 high.

Just my thoughts.

Chris

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