Posted by Junelli 1:11 PM
An interesting quote from Daniel Negreanu about loose/aggressive players:

"I thought about what types of players I didn’t like to be on my left. Who did I hate having on my left?

I hated someone who called all the time, who played a lot of pots. I was never scared of a tight, solid player. Never.

So I realized, you know what? Why don’t I become that player? The one that I hate. So I did. I became the nuisance. You know, the guy who when I raise in late position just calls behind ya and I’ll just play with ya.

That’s the one player that you can’t stand. A guy like Gus Hansen, Phil Ivey, Huck Seed, Ted Forrest, John Hennigan.

I mean guys like this….You have them on your left, they’ll just handcuff you. They are going to force you to make hands. They’re going to force you to hit flops.

Why would I be scared of someone who folds all the time and when he raises, they always have a hand? That guy is not going to scare me. It is going to be a guy who is in my face all the time."

5 Comment(s):

Posted by  Anonymous, at 10:10 AM, June 15, 2005  

This is a really great "both sides of the fence" message that has so many levels to it, it's not hard to get mixed up in the words. Both loose and tight players could tear his statement apart.

Tight Players:
Hey Loose Guy, come on in to the pot with me with your weak starting hands that have to catch to be ahead of my solid holdings. I'll just check/call you down until you realize that your crap holdings have to hit to beat me. I love being ahead in 90% of the hands when seeing a flop. Your shit cards might hit, but when you see that face card, you'll know you're way behind.

Loose Players:
Yeah, I love tight players, they give up their powerful starting cards everytime an ace comes, a 9-high flop comes, or 2 to a straight or flush hits. They raise every now and then, but they lay down way to easily to re-raises.

I suggest mixing in a little bit of both.

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Posted by  Anonymous, at 10:37 AM, June 15, 2005  

Padilla:

Negreanu has it exactly right for tournament play. Particularly in the early levels.

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Posted by  Anonymous, at 12:44 PM, June 15, 2005  

I thought about your previous comments before writing my post, (and have been all week), but I was more interested in pointing out the potential polarity rather than picking a side.

If anyone's around Coushatta this Saturday, look for me, or let me know.

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Posted by  Dr Fro, at 10:02 AM, June 16, 2005  

There is no transitive property in poker.

http://pokerblog.blogspot.com/2003/09/there-is-no-transitive-property-in.html

Ergo, just because one style foils your play does not mean that adapting that style is going to improve your results.

I am surprised DN made this mistake. My thought is that it is more of an off-the-cuff sound byte than some seriously thought out theory.

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Posted by  Junelli, at 5:13 PM, June 16, 2005  

It probably was an off-the-cuff remark. However, I think he means that agresssion is a linchpin of NL and PL hold 'em. Non-agressive players will never be successful in the long run. Controlling the table, and having other players fear you, is an important weapon in a NL player's arsenal. You want your opponents to be "on their heels" not pushing you around.

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