Posted by Junelli 3:18 PM
I had a situation come up on Tuesday that really annoyed me, and I wanted to see if you agree with me. It deals with cashing out and buying back in for less.

As I mentioned in my comments on Friou's post below, I had a hand come up where I flopped bottom two pair against a guy who flopped top two pair. What I didn't mention was that 3 players were all-in on that hand, and the pot was approx $750.

The punk who won the $750 just sat back and folded every hand for the next 10 minutes, and then got up and cashed out. I know it's completely within his rights to stop playing, but I noticed it and it annoyed me since he was leaving with a bunch of my money as well as taking off the table a pretty sizable percentage of the total chips in play. I really dislike hit-and-run players.

He cashed out but never left. He sat around talking to his friends, hanging out in the smoke room, and watching the game. At first I thought he was waiting for one of his friends to finish playing. Nope. He was waiting to buy back in for only $200.

40 minutes after he had cashed out, he sat back down (at the same table) and bought in for $200. Of course, I immediately spoke up and reminded him and the dealer that he had to buy-in for the entire $750 he took off the table. The dealer told him that he had to wait an hour before he could come back in for less. I've never heard of this 1 hour rule (except in a casino), and am pretty sure he just made it up. Of course, I've never seen a guy pull such a pathetic move.

Anyway, Loser stands back up and waits 20 more minutes before he comes back in for $200.

It really pissed me off. However, when I mentioned it to Keith he told me that I should just be glad he's back in for $200 and that it's better than him going home with all his money. Another point is that he is much less of a threat with $200 than he would've been with $750.

I don't know. What do you think?

5 Comment(s):

Posted by  Johnnymac, at 3:35 PM, September 15, 2005  

It would piss me off, too, and has before, but I think Keith is right. At least the guy didn't go home with all your money and you at least have a chance to get a little bit back. Casinos have similar rules, but I am unsure just exactly what the time limit is.

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Posted by  Dr Fro, at 6:24 PM, September 15, 2005  

Actually, I thought he bought in for 100 not 200

Anyway, you left out the most important bit: Later you made a big bet that would drive out any reasonable person on a draw. Since he only had like 35 left, it was an easy call. He hit his draw and beat you. In other words, had he still his whole stack, he would have likely folded and you would have won a big pot.

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Posted by  Padilla, at 8:32 PM, September 16, 2005  

keith, johnnymac, and now morris...

...and this from a very recent post from Junell...

"I wanted to go to the Zebra, and probably should've cashed out. However, I reloaded one more time and waited to hit a big hand, get unstuck, and then cash out."

I'm with you on the frustration, but just let it go. It goes both ways. Over the long haul, you'll win it back, whether from him or someone else.

Kind of nice to see that even big money gets pissed sometimes.

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Posted by  Junelli, at 3:10 PM, September 17, 2005  

1. "Getting unstuck and cashing out even" is a completely different situation from a "hit and run". They're not even comparable.

2. Don't misunderstand my gripe: I wasnt bitching about his decision to cash out. In fact, I said that "it was completely within his right." I will never say a player doesn't have the right to get up and leave whenever they want.

3. Yes, I mentioned this as a possible strategy at the Lake Charles must move game. However, I've never done it a single time. Whether or not it works, I don't like giving up my advantage I have with a large chip stack.

4. Finally, it's not a0bout "letting it go". I didn't throw a tantrum, it just annoyed me that a player would hit a huge hand that eliminates one guy and nearly breaks the other, immediately cash out, and then try to buy back in for less a few minutes later. It was insulting to me, and I am pretty sure you would be pissed too.

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Posted by  Padilla, at 9:13 PM, September 19, 2005  

You're right. In fact, I've never seen the 'buy back in' move, which was the original point of your gripe.

Ever.

I guess if you play long enough......

(the only thing you didn't list, and I assumed, was that he hadn't just sat down. 'we' don't know how long he had been playing. for all we know, he just got back to even after a long session, but i'm sure that's not the case, or we wouldn't be chatting about it.)

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