Posted by Dr Fro 9:30 PM
A couple nights ago, I played O/8 for just a little bit. Nothing went well for 45 minutes. Then, an Ah came on the turn to give me the nut flush with my KhXh. There was a lot of betting and by the time the river came, I was in for about $80.
His 2h3h gave him the wheel-straight-flush. Oh, I guess I didn't have the nut flush all along. I am sorry, please excuse me while I got beat myself on the head.
So today I took pen to paper to figure out just how improbable that scenario was. It turns out that agains 4 random cards, there is a 2.5% chance of making the wheel-straight-flush once three of the wheel-straight-flush are on the board and assuming I don't have either of the 2 cards needed to make it. I wasn't against "4 random cards" so the odds were higher than 2.5%. That is interesting and I guess it helps to prove the point that O/8 is a game of having the nuts or drawing to the nuts, nothing less.
That was not a bad beat story. My intention was to point out the fact that it wasn't terribly unlikely (or at least it was less unlikely that you may have guessed). I say this because I pride myself on not boring people with my bad beat stories. My friend ARH put it this way: "Nobody is as interested in your bad beats or your fantasy football team as much as you are. Nobody. You get 3 sentences, max, if you have to talk about either one. Otherwise, you lose your audience." I agree
So, now there is my fantasy football team... 1) I became a bandwagon fan of my own FF team lately. 2) I don't watch NFL, so my secretary picked the team. 3) we won the league, so that makes me obligated to take the coworkers out for happy hour. Three sentences.
I am hoping that somebody will invite me to play poker in Houston. I could wait for an invite, or I could antagonize them into it (e.g. "Your money, I am still up twenty grand from this last time I stick it in you.") Yale rules! Junell plays poker like a girl! Kim and David are gay! Morris is a Democrat.
Hopefully, I just got under their skin and they will go out of their way to organize a game to take all my money and get back at me. Hopefully.
LAYGO, you can get my email or cell # from Byron. Look me up if you want to play either in Htown or Dallas.
In response to KTL's comment on the best seat against a maniac, Rolf speaks. I have always liked Rolf because he doesn't c0me out with black and white, one-size-fits-all advice. Rather, he suggests some things to consider but recognizes that the facts and circumstances of your game may dictate a different strategy.
OK, is it just me or what happened with the final episode of the 2005 WSOP on ESPN? I TIVO'ed every episode, but I never saw this one. Of course, I know exactly how it ends, but either ESPN never showed it or something got screwed up with a sporting event running over its alloted time.
Tex Barch got 3rd place in the 2005 Main Event at the WSOP. Good for him. He is from Dallas and that keeps up quite a streak of big finishes by guys from Texas. Plus, he dresses like a million bucks. Well, Tex just opened a bar here in Dallas. It is just around the corner from Caden's house. I am sure he will spend a lot of time there.
And other Texans are in the news. I think I am about a week late on this one, but I have been busy drinking Christmas shopping. It seems Dolly is under the SEC lens. I know the SEC better than your average Joe, and let me tell you that you don't want these guys after you. Their bark and their bite are equally bad. My speculation (hello, slander and libel laws) is that somebody said something that was sincere, but that person was recklessly unaware of securities law in the U.S. My guess: this all goes away since there does not appear to be either a victim or a person that profitted unecesarily. But Junell is the lawyer here.
I guess poker is a full contact sport. Evidently, the 14 yr-old kid killer was half-Mexican, half-Whitey and bore a striking resemblence to Beavis. After the killing he said, "mi padre esta in Castillian"
And the Chronicle picked up a story about poker in Texas. There was no mention of legality.
Did you get to find out if any of your opponents had a boat-draw? If someone had a made low with 2 pair or a set, your bad beat story, or whatever that was, loses teeth.
The betting on the turn and river had the effect of narrowing it to just the two of us.
A good player would have probably folded 2-pair, rather than draw to 4 outs to win half the pot, if they had to call 2 big bets cold (and knowing that the raising may not quite be over)
So, the only hand I saw was the guy that scooped the pot.
My basic problem in O8 is that play too much like Holdem. E.g. in holdem if you always assume that it is impossible that someone has quads, you won't pay for it. Go ahead and bet your boat. In Omaha, though, you see a lot of quads and to assume that a guy doesn't have quads (particularly in PL high only) is expensive.
That's one example, but the comment box doesn't allow enough characters for me to list all the issues with my Omaha play.
I agree Doc. And I preach on and on about online PL Omaha H/L, but nobody listens...... My soapbox: You can find game after game online where you simply have to play your cards, and not the players, to win. This fact makes it easy to play while doing other things, which I don't do when playing hold 'em. I find it difficult to read into a 4 card hand when the play online is so erratic, so I don't bother. When you hit a hand, you continue to bet, there are no tricks for me in PLO8. I leave it up to my opponents to out-think themselves. The only temptation is playing non-nut flushes, straights against a paired board, or non-nut lows.
Random thoughts from a lawyer, an accountant, a commodities trader, an ex-Marine and a WSOP Main Event money finisher that don't know as much as they wish they did...