Friday, September 01, 2006


Posted by Junelli 10:30 AM
From "Middle Limit Hold Em"

A $30-$60 game. Two early players limp, and you raise from middle position having the . The big blind and the limpers call. There is $260 in the pot and four players. The flop comes: , so you have second pair and a backdoor flush-draw. The big blind and the first limper check. The next limper bets. What do you do?

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Posted by Blogger Junelli, at 10:34 AM, September 01, 2006  

Fold. With three opponents, a player leading into you, and a king-high flop, you are probably playing two outs. You may be up against a draw, but unless a queen, a spade, or a ten arrives on the turn, you will be forced to fold anyway if the turn gets bet. Because you are getting almost 10-to-1 pot odds to call and there are 15 cards which allow you to keep playing, a case might be made that you should call. The problem is that 13 of these cards just give you a draw, and you have to pay more money to continue. Some might argue that raising would be good, since maybe you can drive out the other players and get it heads-up with the bettor. Now you may get a free card. But if you are only playing with two outs and some backdoor possibilities, a free card is not worth investing $60.



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Posted by Blogger Dr Fro, at 11:12 AM, September 01, 2006  

RUN AWAY!



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Posted by Blogger LAYGO, at 12:57 PM, September 01, 2006  

Close the table & join a NL table.



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Posted by Blogger Padilla, at 10:45 AM, September 04, 2006  

I am "some", and would raise.

With no player images, you are normally scared of a player acting into a raiser in ANY spot. However, there is a lot to be said for his bet. What if it's Junell? He only needs to win it 1 out of 8 or 9 times for this bluff to be profitable, so his jack or small pocket pair, or even 2 spades is still worth a bet here. You took the lead in the hand pre-flop and shouldn't give up that image so easily. If it were heads up, I may rethink the pot, but with the added pot value of the pre-flop callers, the pot is big enough to put in $60 to get to the river for free.

I don't like calling, unless you've popped somebody with a tricky play lately, and the bettor won't bet the turn in fear.



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