Thursday, October 30, 2008


Posted by Dr Fro 10:16 AM
KTL can tell me if I got this right:

Game 5, had it been a regular season game, would have been counted as a win for the Phillies if it were a regular season game. This is because:
- the game lasted at least 5 innings
- the 1/2 inning played does not count
- Philly was winning at the end of the last complete inning

I do not know if I got that right.

I also understand that there was an acual, written rule change a few years ago that made a special case for the playoffs that if the game was tied EVEN if the tie came in the middle of an inning, that game would be continued on another day. Additionally, Selig and the Stonecutters others had some sort of gentlemen's agreement to continue the game even if Tampa failed to tie it up.

Did I get that right, too?

What I do know for sure is that Mike and Mike reported yesterday that Vegas paid out the game as if Philly had won because, I believe, Vegas' rules reflect the regular season rules and there is no special rule for the playoffs. Regardinng futures bets (e.g., "Phillies to win it in 5), you would really have 8 possible "games" and how would you count that? Surely, you would throw out the partial game 5 and just look to the winner of the "real" game 5. Of course, Philly won, so no-harm, no-foul. I also managed to turn $8 into $10 by taking them to win the series.

My friend, Little Pony, bet on game 5 on intertops, and they refunded his bet as a "no-play". He is curious if anybody bet on the Rays and, if so, did they also get a refund?

I had mixed emotions about my old friend, Brad Lidge, but in the end, I was happy for him. We can all relate to his quote after the game that the trials and tribulations leading up to this victory made him appreciate it all the more. Dr. Fro felt the same when he won the Rose Bowl in January 2006.

Can somebody explain one more thing to me? Why did the Dallas Morning News not put the World Series on the front page this morning? Since when did the Mav's season opener become bigger news than the championship in one of America's 3 biggest sports?

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Posted by Blogger Todd, at 2:18 PM, October 30, 2008  

Fro

you are right on everything you stated but to answer your question vegas has a rule that a game must start and stop in the same day so as far as they are concerned the game was official after 5 innings and they were leading so it was an official game and philly was a winner. vegas does not play by the same rules as everyone else and major league baseball was not going to crown a winner without the game going 9 innings regardless if tampa had not tied it in the top of the 6th inning. Selig met with both managers before the series and told them all games would be 9 inning games regardless but the managers did not relay the message to the players.



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Posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:07 PM, October 30, 2008  

Fro - You are right on and so is Todd. An ESPN radio analyst said that the only thing Selig did wrong was not make a public statement before the series started. ESPN was throwing out the conspiracy theory that Selig did not want the fans and players to know unless it was absolutely necessary. Thus, perhaps why the managers knew but no one else did.

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